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Note N273
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On the tombstone of her husband, her name is spelled "Jennett." The only Janet or Jennet Elliot born anywhere near the right time in Castleton - according to the transcription - was Jenet christened on February 24, 1788 but presumably that is not she as she would be too young. She was the daughter of Rouland Elliot and Jenet Elliot.
She was said to be the first person buried in the Pond Mills Cemetery. Since her name is on the tombstone of her husband, who died much later, I have to wonder about exactly where she was buried. There was a story in the London Free Press in 1933 which spoke of her being buried there by her husband who made a "rude coffin" himself out of planks using only an axe and an auger.
Glenna Jamieson writes as follows:
A record of Jennet Elliot's birth and baptism has not been found either. There are so many Elliots on the Castleton parish register it is difficult to sort them out However, no record of a Jennet Elliot, baptized in the 1770's or 1780's, was found on the Castleton parish register. Jennet was likely related to one of the three Elliot families who came to Westminster Township in Middlesex County, Upper Canada. The first Elliots to arrive in Westminster were Ninian and his brother Adam Elliot, the sons of John Elliot and Jane Robson. Since Elliot Grieve followed those two Elliots to Upper Canada, this suggests his wife might have been related to them. However, his father John Grieve's mother might have been an Elliot and that is why he has Elliot for a first name, and his grandmother may have been the one related to Ninian and Adam Elliot.
Jennet may have been the daughter of Ninian Elliot and his third wife Janet Douglas although their other children are mentioned on the parish register. There is a space between their daughter Christian born 1779 and a son William born 1784. One would think that Ninian would have named a daughter after his wife Janet Douglas, since he had so many daughters. Elliot Grieve (son of Elliot Grieve and his second wife Jane Baty) married Elizabeth Douglas. Jennet (Elliot) Grieve named her first daughter Janet, and the first daughter was usually named after the maternal grandmother, and she named a daughter Christian or Catherine, names used by Ninian Elliot and Janet Douglas for their daughters.
Or Jennet Elliot might have been related to Big John Elliot, son of James Elliot and Helen Elliot of Burngrains Miekledale, Ewes Parish, or Little John Elliot, who married Ann Graham. Faye Hurst in her Murray history has children of James and Helen Elliot and they do not include a Janet. I think the parents of John Elliot who married Ann Graham may have been William Elliot and Elizabeth Oliver, William being a brother of the above mentioned James Elliot. John was born in 1780 and that would make him close in age to this Jennet Elliot. Little John Elliot's wife Ann Graham was from Hartsgarth. John went to New Brunswick with Big John Elliot and his wife Helen Murray and then with them to Upper Canada in 1836 suggesting they were cousins.
Gravestone Castleton Cemetery:"In memory of William Elliot who died at Deburn 1793, aged 48 years also Elizabeth Oliver, his spouse, who died 1783, aged 24 years, and also Walter Elliot who died at Tweedenside 1777, aged 22 years. Also Helen Elliott, daughter to James Elliot, who died in infancy."
James Elliot was the father of Big John Elliot Jr. It seems possible that Little John Elliot Sr. was his uncle and the son of James Elliot's brother William. John Elliot Sr. however, named his son John, but he did have a daughter Elizabeth. Jennet Elliot, who married Elliot Grieve could have also been a daughter of William Elliot and Elizabeth Oliver. She named her second son William. She had a daughter Elizabeth but her husband Elliot Grieve's mother was Elizabeth Paisley. Little John was born in 1780 and Jennet about 1778. Elizabeth (Oliver) Elliot died when age 24 perhaps in child birth in 1783.
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Note N274
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[Murray.FTW]
They lived on a farm across the road from his father. He was imprisoned
during the rebellion of 1837 by mistake. After spending the winter in jail
under the worst conditions, he was released on April 10, 1838. His
health was broken and he died shortly after, leaving two young daughters.
There was a child who died in infancy in 1834. In 1846 Jean married
William Duguid 1803-1875. They had six children and their son, William Jr.
1854-1910 is buried with them in Pond Mills Cemetery. In the 1851 census, the two girls Ann and Janet are living with their mother and step-father, right next to the Beatties and Dunns.
Here is an article extracted from "Pioneer Days in London by Cl. T. Campbell, published by Advertiser Job Printing Co., London, Canada, 1921, page 107-108:
"John Grieve was born in Roxboroughshire, Scotland, in 1808. When eight years old he came out with his father, who settled on the third concession of Westminster. Here John married and established his home; an honorable and religious man, and a good citizen, but like many others, an advocate of political reform. He never joined the insurgents, nor took up arms, but at a logging bee one day he spoke strongly against the evil courses of the ruling powers. That was enough to bring him under suspicion. His language was reported, and Capt. Robson, of London township, drove out with a constable and arrested him. He was turned into prison with the rest of the suspects. Here for six months he lay, awaiting trial. I have seen a letter he wrote his wife, under date of January 4th, 1838, an old time-worn sheet, yellow with age; but the ink as black and the writing as distinct as though written yesterday.
And so he said to his wife, dating his letter from the London jail, January 4th, 1838:
My Dear Wife: I am informed by the magistrate that I, with other prisoners, will be taken to Toronto immediately; the handcuffs are now a-making for us, and we expect to start tomorrow. I do not know for what purposes they are taking us; but I was told by Mr. Lawrason that we will probably be tried before we are brought back. I have no idea what the time will be; but do not be disheartened, my dear Jane, but trust to a kind Providence who ordereth all things well, that we will again enjoy domestic happiness together. My heart is with you though I will be far away. Little Ann, poor thing, will forget me; but you will mention me sometimes to her. Above all, as soon as she is capable of understanfing anything, speak to her of her Heavenly Father. remember while I am gone, the is a double duty devolves on you. (Private affairs follow. Nothing about politics, of course, save indirectly in his closing words): I wish that all my friends at this critical juncture may take good heed to their way and walk strictly according to that which they consider their duty.
And he signs himself: Your affectionate husband, John Grieve
At his trial nothing could be proved, and he was discharged. But his health had broken down under confinement. Gray-haired and feeble, an old man while still in his youth, he went home and died in less than two months."
"Note from Marg Hulbert: This John Grieve b. 1808 is in my Tree. His father was Elliot Grieve, son of John and Lizzie Paisley Grieve of Castleton Parish. The birth year for John Grieve, who was jailed, should be Oct. 6, 1806 and he died June 1, 1838. He is buried in Pond Mills Cemetery, London, ON. His parents were Elliot Grieve and Jannet Elliot. His mother died in 1825 and was the first person buried in Pond Mills Cem. John married Jean (Jane) Murray b. 1813 in Aberdour Parish, Aberdeen, Scot. She died 1900 Westminster and is buried with her second husband, William Duguid. John and Jane had two daughters, Ann married Adam Lind and Janet married James Walker. They are also buried in Pond Mills Cem. John and Jane had a child who died in infancy in 1834."